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20:00:38 <hottuna> dg, meetingtime?
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20:03:06 <dg> uh.. through tor?
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20:03:06 <dg> was just pulling the mtg topic ;)
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20:03:06 <dg> ok, hi!
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20:03:06 <dg> Today's agenda:
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20:03:09 <dg> (0) - hi
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20:03:15 <dg> (1) - Domain vote
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20:03:18 <dg> (2) - Website transition
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20:03:25 <dg> (3) - IPv6 .. I hope
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20:03:28 <dg> (4) - Crypto .. I hope
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20:03:43 <dg> str4d KillYourTV eche|on zzz
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20:03:54 <str4d> Hi!
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20:03:57 <dg> sponge meeh
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20:03:57 <hottuna> Hi!
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20:04:04 <dg> Hi! :-)
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20:04:07 <exoshell> dg: Looks like I need to edit my .pac file and update the regex. The connect was going through 127.0.0.1:4444 Thanks! :)
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20:04:25 <dg> exoshell: No problem. Better to be that problem than being censored for real, right?
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20:04:34 <dg> Ok, how many people do we need to vote?
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20:04:45 <exoshell> no kidding.
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20:04:48 <str4d> weltende
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20:04:52 <str4d> (ping)
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20:05:06 <hottuna> Mathiasdm postman badger
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20:05:19 <hottuna> domain vote is coming up
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20:05:22 <dg> \o/
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20:05:41 <dg> h2ik bpb psi
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20:05:49 <dg> .. wakey wakey?
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20:06:23 <dg> Everyone's sleepy
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20:06:36 <dg> We could do with more than three people >.>
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20:06:51 <hottuna> 3 ppl isnt enought.
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20:06:58 <str4d> Nope
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20:07:16 <hottuna> Could we start a zzz.i2p thread for it and have #i2p-dev topic point ppl to it.
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20:07:20 <str4d> And there are two votes needed - what we would change it to, and if we are going to change it at all.
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20:07:31 <hottuna> and just have people vote for one of the alternatives
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20:07:38 <str4d> (Can and should be independent)
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20:07:41 <dg> RN, Shinobiwan
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20:07:49 <hottuna> agreed
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20:08:00 <dg> might be an idea
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20:08:07 <dg> I was going for $OPTIONS/"I don't want a change"
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20:08:28 <hottuna> dg, makes sense to me
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20:08:45 <dg> I mean.. we did post this a week ago
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20:08:45 <zzz> dont even bother if weltende isnt here
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20:08:48 <str4d> With two votes, even those who don't want a change can contribute an idea as to what they would change to if they had to.
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20:09:22 <dg> They could anyway? We've had the topic up for a week and there's been no new suggestions.
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20:09:22 <hottuna> str4d, so $OPTIONS/"I don't want a change" is not good enough?
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20:09:37 <dg> "You can abstain (to say I don't want us to change) but it's preferable if you'd bring it up first so we could discuss why.. but not necessary."
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20:09:40 <Shinobiwan> o/
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20:10:26 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> zzz: well.. I don't *really* care
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20:10:51 <str4d> hottuna: that doesn't give the right statistics.
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20:10:51 <dg> Does that mean you'll go with the majority or.. what?
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20:10:55 <dg> Not caring isn't a great stance.
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20:11:02 <hottuna> weltende, as long as you know that there is a vote
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20:11:21 <zzz> ok, but presumably work would fall on you if we switch, so you kinda have to agree to a switch
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20:11:21 <dg> We've said there's a vote, people are able to vote for - with a choice or against
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20:12:11 <str4d> weltende, how much work do you see for yourself in the event of a switch?
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20:12:22 <hottuna> alright, are we enough ppl around for the vote "Do you want to change the domain?" ?
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20:12:29 <dg> I'm trying to think of things you can't do with a quick sed.
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20:13:03 <dg> hottuna: hottuna, str4d, zzz, Shinobiwan, welt, dg
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20:13:03 <dg> that's 6
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20:13:03 <dg> is that enough?
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20:13:10 <dg> I'm not sure.
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20:13:10 <hottuna> yes?
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20:13:22 * asdfsdafsdafsd runs in the room
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20:13:29 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I'm here.... 7
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20:13:29 <dg> :o
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20:13:32 <dg> make that 7
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20:13:47 <zzz> dns updates, ssl certs, transfers (if somebody else has the new domain now) .. .among others
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20:13:47 <hottuna> so let's do the vote?
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20:13:54 <dg> it's not lik we have ssl certs anyway
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20:13:57 <dg> let's do it
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20:13:57 <inscrutus> i'm just a civvie, is my opinion worth anything ?
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20:14:04 <dg> yes
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20:14:11 <hottuna> inscrutus, yes :)
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20:14:14 <zzz> dg, yes we do have certs
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20:14:21 <dg> zzz: none valid afaik
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20:14:28 <hottuna> zzz, the cacert cert?
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20:14:28 <dg> hottuna: say "I"? deal?
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20:14:30 <inscrutus> cool :)
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20:15:00 <hottuna> \me says votes "I"
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20:15:03 <asdfsdafsdafsd> so, what are the alternate domain choices?
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20:15:06 <zzz> dg the choice of CA is a different issue. don't confuse things by saying we dont have certs.
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20:15:17 <hottuna> "I"
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20:15:17 <Shinobiwan> i2p2.de ?
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20:15:17 <dg> zzz: meh. same diff for the most part. for another time, anyway.
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20:15:24 <dg> Those in favor of a domain change (doesn't matter what to), say I!
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20:15:35 <hottuna> asdfsdafsdafsd, that is the next vote, first we decide if we want to change
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20:15:42 <zzz> no, its not the same at all. It's work to be done, don't discount it.
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20:15:42 * dg votes "I"
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20:15:44 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> str4d: not sure.. but not gonna do anything before 1.3
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20:15:52 * hottuna votes "I"
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20:15:59 <zzz> do you guys mean "aye" ?
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20:16:06 <zzz> ffs
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20:16:07 <dg> ...
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20:16:07 <dg> yes
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20:16:10 <hottuna> yes :P
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20:16:13 <hottuna> damnit
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20:16:13 <dg> LOL
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20:16:16 * inscrutus says aye (FWIW)
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20:16:16 <asdfsdafsdafsd> hottune, ah ok
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20:16:19 <dg> .. aye
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20:16:26 <asdfsdafsdafsd> edit.... tuna lol
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20:17:20 <hottuna> 3 for - 0 against, this far.
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20:17:46 <Shinobiwan> i2p2.de ? ?_?
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20:17:49 <zzz> do we have volunteers to do all the other work required? docs, website, router console, etc?
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20:17:52 <Shinobiwan> if so, aye
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20:18:03 <dg> Shinobiwan: Moving from i2p2.de -> anything
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20:18:19 <dg> (we'll have another vote to determine what "anything" is)
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20:18:26 <Shinobiwan> yea then... definitely.
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20:18:29 <hottuna> zzz, ill take responsibility if works needs to be done (that is server specific)
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20:18:35 * asdfsdafsdafsd confers with his greater and lesser demons....
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20:18:46 <dg> Website doesn't need anything doing.
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20:18:46 <asdfsdafsdafsd> aye
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20:19:01 <str4d> zzz: the work will get done, but the 301 server redirect will solve that.
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20:19:01 <hottuna> 5 for - 0 against
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20:19:04 <dg> well, a redirect.
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20:19:07 <dg> 4 for - 0 against.
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20:19:09 <iRelay> <user@kytv> abstention here
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20:19:09 <dg> oops
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20:19:12 <str4d> Website, has nothing (aside from tweaking the mirror links in the footer)
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20:19:31 <str4d> Ah, and aye
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20:19:34 <dg> so.. no?
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20:19:37 <hottuna> ok
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20:19:43 <str4d> dg: abstention. Difference.
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20:19:47 <eche|on> count me as a no, it is absolutly unneeded and unneeded work and confuses the users
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20:20:00 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I guess this means I'll have to edit my posters....
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20:20:00 <dg> str4d: No, I said something in the topic due to the previous model we were going for.
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20:20:02 <iRelay> <user@kytv> my English is bad. I mean I am indifferent
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20:20:12 <dg> str4d: "You can abstain (to say I don't want us to change) but it's preferable if you'd bring it up first so we could discuss why.. but not necessary."
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20:20:12 <eche|on> but as I do not have to do anything, who cares
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20:20:15 <dg> ah ok
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20:20:18 <dg> 6 for - 1 against
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20:20:21 <lillith> FWIW, my vote is no change. i like i2p2.de with the other urls pointing at it
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20:20:34 <str4d> lillith: other urls?
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20:20:34 <dg> 2 against.
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20:21:01 <lillith> geti2p.net etc
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20:21:04 <str4d> You mean the mirrors? They aren't pointing at it (that would be a 301 redirect) - at present they are full mirrors.
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20:21:19 <dg> geti2p.net is a mirror iirc.
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20:21:22 <lillith> ahh okay :D
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20:21:26 <dg> so.. yes or no?
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20:21:45 <zzz> I'll give a contingent aye, dependent on the result of the 2nd vote. If I don't like the new one I will switch to nay.
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20:21:52 <lillith> no - keep i2p2 as primary url
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20:21:59 <hottuna> sponge, Mathiasdm, Meeh, RN: Domain votes?
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20:22:06 <dg> 7 for - 2 against.
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20:22:25 <str4d> (That's why I wanted to do the second vote first =P)
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20:22:33 <dg> .. oh.
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20:22:38 <dg> That makes snese.
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20:22:45 <asdfsdafsdafsd> can zzz setup a poll on the dev forum?
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20:22:56 <dg> don't know if polls are possible
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20:22:59 <zzz> no, because if the 1st vote loses you dont need a 2nd.
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20:23:13 <inscrutus> lillith: that hints at another question: keep i2p2 as a secondary domain?
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20:23:20 <str4d> inscrutus: of course.
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20:23:20 <inscrutus> i2p2.de*
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20:23:26 <dg> That's a yes.
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20:23:33 <dg> We're keeping it for SEO purposes and to stop evil.
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20:23:37 <str4d> If a change goes ahead, www.i2p2.de will be 301-ed to the new one
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20:24:10 <str4d> I.e. it wouldn't be a full mirror, it would redirect to the new URL (which ensures that the old SEO/linkage/etc. gets transferred to the new URL)
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20:24:28 <inscrutus> Right, that makes sense
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20:24:37 <eche|on> ..at some point I cannot read/hear/... this buzzwor SEO anymore,...
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20:24:47 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I guess a forum vote is maybe a bad idea, because you could get people voting multiple times too
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20:24:54 <zzz> my vote and any change is also contingent on weltende agreeing to do the work
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20:24:54 <dg> SEO is real, lol.
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20:26:05 <str4d> zzz: my sugggestion (if a domain change is agreed on) is that the site revamp be put up at the new URL, and then once tested the old one is put on redirect. So weltende would be killing two birds with a slightly larger stone.
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20:26:43 <hottuna> Is the first vote over and done?
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20:26:49 <iRelay> <user@kytv> don't kill innocent birds!!
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20:26:49 <dg> Believe so.
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20:26:59 <h2ik> hi back dg
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20:26:59 <dg> So.. 7 for - 2 against.
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20:27:02 <dg> oh!
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20:27:02 <dg> hi!
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20:27:02 <h2ik> sorry, working :-)
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20:27:06 <dg> np :-)
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20:27:10 <dg> got enough time to say yay or nay?
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20:27:13 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I don't think anyone else is coming...
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20:27:36 <asdfsdafsdafsd> we could wait until 8:30 UTC though
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20:27:51 <dg> I'll wait for h2ik's answer
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20:28:18 * h2ik is reading up on the domain vote
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20:28:38 <dg> the vote right now is actually "Do you think we should change?" - not what to
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20:29:01 <dg> if the result is yes, I will post a forum topic for voting.
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20:29:04 <dg> if no..: pass
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20:29:16 <h2ik> We've had the .de for a long time and I'm not opposed to it. So pass.
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20:29:31 <h2ik> sorry, obstain
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20:29:31 <dg> 7 for - 3 against.
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20:29:34 <dg> oh
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20:29:34 <h2ik> I'm ok either way
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20:29:41 <dg> so not against, not for
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20:29:44 <dg> ok
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20:29:44 * unresolved waves
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20:29:47 <h2ik> 7 - 1 - 3
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20:29:50 <dg> 7 for - 2 against.
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20:30:15 <dg> 7 - 2 - 3
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20:30:15 * h2ik eagerly awaits the ipv6 topic :-)
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20:30:19 <dg> Okay, that's done then! :D
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20:30:37 <dg> str4d: Your time to shine.
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20:30:47 <dg> topic = transition to new website design
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20:30:50 <str4d> We can always update this vote if more people come in, but there's enough for the second vote.
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20:31:08 <str4d> dg: are we not having the second vote right now? Or are we doing that in a thread?
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20:31:22 <dg> str4d: I was thinking of a thread.. we can do it now if you want?
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20:31:25 <dg> We have enough to do it.
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20:31:35 <dg> It's not worth waiting another week IMO but I didn't want to upset anyone
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20:31:54 <hottuna> Let's do it now?
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20:31:57 <zzz> cant do polls on zzz.i2p. use forum.i2p if you want a poll
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20:31:57 <dg> hell, let's do it
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20:32:07 <asdfsdafsdafsd> we need a catchy domain name...
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20:32:10 <hottuna> enumerate the options and we'll all pick one
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20:32:17 <dg> The new domain candidates are:
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20:32:17 <dg> - i2p.io
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20:32:17 <dg> - i2p.int
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20:32:17 <dg> - i2p.me
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20:32:17 <dg> - geti2p.net
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20:32:38 <h2ik> geti2p.net would follow suit with other FOSS projects
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20:32:38 <Meeh> i2p.int was kind of fancy
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20:32:41 <Meeh> or io
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20:32:43 <hottuna> ** other (specify) **
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20:32:51 <dg> (and make sure it's available)
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20:33:05 * hottuna votes for geti2p.net (since we already have it and it's pretty good)
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20:33:17 * dg votes for geti2p.net. ditto on the reasons.
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20:33:23 <zzz> who owns those 4 now?
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20:33:29 <asdfsdafsdafsd> i2p4.me? lol
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20:33:36 <dg> N/A, N/A, N/A, hottuna. AFAIK.
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20:34:00 <hottuna> i dont own geti2p.net
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20:34:04 <dg> oh?
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20:34:15 <hottuna> weltende/welterde owns geti2p.net
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20:34:18 <dg> ah ok
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20:35:03 <zzz> um, if we don't know who owns a proposed domain, then there's no f-ing use talking about it. Unless it's available.
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20:35:10 <lillith> would it be counterproductive to go for i2p-projekt.de?
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20:35:10 <lillith> that's my vote if it's an option
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20:35:21 <hottuna> zzz, the above ones are available
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20:35:36 <hottuna> lillith, you can vote for whatever you like :)
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20:35:44 <zzz> ok.
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20:35:47 <asdfsdafsdafsd> i2phides.me
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20:35:58 <zzz> yet another reason why we need welt's agreement.
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20:36:09 <lillith> hottuna: good. just checking the point isn't to move away from a .de domain :)
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20:36:17 <dg> it was for some of us ;)
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20:36:24 <dg> well.. actually.. overall, it was.
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20:36:31 <dg> but you can vote for whatever
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20:36:36 <Shinobiwan> geti2p.net is good, i2p.me is good too IMO
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20:36:39 <Shinobiwan> if need to get new one, i2p.me
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20:36:46 <str4d> dg: not overall
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20:36:57 <dg> it does not have to be new
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20:37:03 * zzz again raises the significant issue of moving to a US-controlled TLD
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20:37:12 <iRelay> <user@kytv> and there was silence .....
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20:37:13 <iRelay> <user@kytv> I don't like the .me and .io - they're very unknown here
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20:37:15 <iRelay> <user@kytv> maybe cheaper, I dunno, but people here would be like "WTF is that?"
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20:37:15 <dg> I don't think it's the time to.
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20:37:35 <hottuna> when you've decided what ytou'd like to vote for, please denote it with a /me or something easily distinguishable
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20:37:35 <dg> The vote was in +, not -
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20:37:49 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I don't like the '.io'
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20:37:52 <Shinobiwan> yea the country bit is important :/
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20:38:11 <dg> I felt that if the $GOV wanted rid of us, they could anyway. Tor Project does fine.
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20:38:17 <zzz> agreed. you arent picking 2 letters, you're picking a legal domain
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20:38:19 <iRelay> <user@kytv> oh, it was the relay lagging.
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20:38:19 * Mad reads silently, thinking this is quiet an important descision.
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20:38:22 <dg> We have bigger problems than our domain if they want us shut down so badly.
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20:38:31 <iRelay> <user@kytv> IMHO short is better than i2p-project.whatever
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20:38:43 <unresolved> i2.p
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20:38:46 <unresolved> :P
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20:39:25 <zzz> dg, the fact that $X hasn't yet been shut down is not much of an argument. The issue is who a particular government _has_ shutdown and why, and the legal process required.
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20:42:48 <asdfsdafsdafsd> that's pretty good unresolved -> i2.p
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20:44:24 <inscrutus> Are we worried about the .net having censorship issues?
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20:44:27 <dg> zzz: It is? I don't think the US government would come after us, but if they were to, they'd likely go after TPO at the same time, or not long after. TPO didn't see it as much of an issue and I don't either.
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20:44:27 <dg> I'm not, some are.
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20:44:30 <lillith> semi related to zzz's point, is there an i2p .onion? will there ever be?
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20:44:33 <zzz> to handwave and say all TLDs are equivalent is naive
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20:44:33 <unresolved> ty :P
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20:44:33 <dg> lillith: I can get on that but AFAIK, right now, no.
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20:44:33 <str4d> lillith: that IS a valid point; but that would be work for weltende
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20:44:33 <str4d> (There isn't one now)
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20:44:33 <lillith> also a freesite - if censorship is/may be an issue there are other ways of getting round it than just changing the url
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20:44:33 <inscrutus> Well there _are_ backup domains in case geti2p.net gets shut down
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20:44:33 * inscrutus votes geti2p.net
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20:44:33 <inscrutus> And getting shut down would be good media coverage :D
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20:44:35 <asdfsdafsdafsd> hehe
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20:44:35 <zzz> again, the fact that t.p.o or anybody else hasn't yet had a problem, or your theory that they wouldn't shutdown us unless thy also shutdown $X and they'd never do that, is irrelevant
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20:44:35 <lillith> also re: people talking about tor, tor dosent allow file sharing, so they have more protection in US
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20:44:35 <lillith> i2p does allow filesharing so is more likely to be a target
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20:44:35 <zzz> it's the established procedures and due process or lack thereof.
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20:46:13 <dg> inscrutus: mm, yeah. I doubt we'd be censored without some noise.
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20:46:19 <str4d> lillith: it's not that they forbid filesharing for legal reasons, it's that they encourage people to not fileshare for technical reasons.
|
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20:46:19 <dg> In any case, you can still use Tor for filesharing.
|
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20:46:19 <dg> You just shouldn't.
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20:46:22 <dg> So..
|
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20:46:22 <dg> Back on topic?
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20:46:22 <lillith> str4d: whatever the reason, it will almost certainly be a plus when it comes to not being shut down
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20:46:33 <lillith> sorry, dg. yes
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20:46:50 <dg> Right now, I believe it's geti2p.net - 2
|
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20:46:53 * lillith wishes to officially register a vote for i2p-projekt.de
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20:46:56 <dg> Shinobiwan: You never decided ;)
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20:46:56 <dg> ok
|
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20:46:59 <zzz> presumably i2p2.de etc remains a mirror for many years
|
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20:47:02 <dg> yes
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||||
20:47:05 <Shinobiwan> I pinged out, must have missed something
|
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20:47:19 <dg> Shinobiwan: ah. Doesn't have to be a new domain. Your vote?
|
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20:47:57 <Shinobiwan> geti2p.net
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20:48:15 <dg> that's 4 so far..
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20:48:15 <Shinobiwan> if welterde say OK, or w/e needs to happen for that.
|
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20:48:27 <zzz> .io, .me, and .int are worse than what we have now and not worthy. i2p-projekt.net is better but hyphens are terrible for many reasons, an the english spelling is problematic. that leaves only geti2p.net imho
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20:48:41 <inscrutus> dg: am I counted among those 4? I think I'm lagging
|
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20:49:13 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I agree with zzz.... out of the 4 geti2p.net is the best
|
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20:49:32 <Shinobiwan> yeah, haha, exactly.
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20:49:55 <str4d> Of the available choices, my vote is for geti2p.net (and for http://geti2p.net/ rather than http://www.geti2p.net/ as it currently is)
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20:50:06 <iRelay> Title: I2P Anonymous Network - I2P (at geti2p.net)
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20:50:34 <dg> geti2p.net - 7 - hottuna, dg, inscrutus, zzz, asdfsdafsdafsd, Shinobiwan, str4d
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20:50:34 <dg> i2p-projekt.de - 1 - lillith
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20:51:34 <unresolved> ill go for geti2p.net
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20:51:53 <Meeh> geti2p.net + meeh
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20:52:55 <Meeh> In case you didn't get it , I vote for geti2p.net too
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20:53:09 <dg> aye
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20:53:12 <dg> geti2p.net - 9 - hottuna, dg, inscrutus, zzz, asdfsdafsdafsd, Shinobiwan, str4d, unresolved, meeh
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20:53:15 <dg> i2p-projekt.de - 1 - lillith
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20:53:18 <dg> Are we done?
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20:53:21 <zzz> ech has a couple others too. i2pprojekt.net maybe? too bad those didnt get added to the list last week.
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20:53:25 <orion> Vote?
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20:53:28 <orion> What are we voting on?
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20:53:32 <dg> zzz: if anybody cared to, they could have suggested it
|
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20:53:39 <dg> orion: new project domain (official, main one used)
|
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20:53:46 <zzz> in fact, step one, a couple of weeks ago, should have been to list all the domains we already have.
|
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20:53:49 <orion> What are the choices?
|
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20:54:00 <dg> orion:
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20:54:00 <dg> - i2p.io
|
||||
20:54:00 <dg> - i2p.int
|
||||
20:54:00 <dg> - i2p.me
|
||||
20:54:00 <dg> - geti2p.net
|
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20:54:10 <iRelay> <user@kytv> re i2pprojekt.net - I have the same issue as zzz: the k instead of c
|
||||
20:54:10 <dg> (or one you know of that is available!)
|
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20:54:25 <str4d> - i2pproject.net
|
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20:54:32 <str4d> - i2p-projekt.de
|
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20:54:57 <str4d> (We have those two alongside geti2p.net and i2p2.de)
|
||||
20:55:00 <lillith> i just think it should be a little different than the typical get[name].[com|net|org]
|
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20:55:08 <suhr> i2p-project.org is avalible?
|
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20:55:15 <dg> "-"s suck.
|
||||
20:56:12 <iRelay> <user@kytv> I think geti2p.net and i2pproject.net are best, despite the double p
|
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20:56:37 <iRelay> <user@kytv> but I'd go with the geti2p.net one
|
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20:57:18 <str4d> AFK 5 mins
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20:58:25 <Mathiasdm> 21:22 < hottuna> sponge, Mathiasdm, Meeh, RN: Domain votes?
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20:58:28 <Mathiasdm> hm?
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20:58:35 <orion> What about i2p.sg, i2p.vc, or i2p.mn?
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20:58:56 <Mathiasdm> I won't vote, I haven't been active enough to contribute anything useful
|
||||
20:59:07 <Meeh> ok, is there some simple webutility where we just can create a fast vote thing, and vote and be finished with it? :P
|
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20:59:10 <hottuna> We're voting to change our official domain away from i2p2.de
|
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20:59:17 <hottuna> every opinion is valuable Mathiasdm
|
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20:59:24 <Mathiasdm> thanks for asking :)
|
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20:59:42 <Mathiasdm> yes, but I'm someone with an uninformed opinion :) so I'll pass this one
|
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20:59:45 <dg> I'm keeping note.
|
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20:59:48 <Mathiasdm> I need to go afk again, I'm afraid
|
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20:59:51 * Mathiasdm waves
|
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20:59:55 <hottuna> bye
|
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21:00:10 <dg> bye
|
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21:00:21 <dg> be nice if we could see you again soon, Mathiasdm!
|
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21:00:21 <Meeh> bye
|
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21:00:24 <orion> What's the legal status on these TLDs?
|
||||
21:00:57 <dg> AFK for 10 minutes or so. As str4d is gone and he's leading the next topic, feel free to talk about domains or whatever.
|
||||
21:01:03 <dg> geti2p.net is winning, will likely be our decision.
|
||||
21:01:28 <iRelay> <user@kytv> bye Mathiasdm!
|
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21:03:28 <orion> Can we have the website be geti2p.net and have personal emails be directed to blah@i2p.io?
|
||||
21:03:35 <orion> Like, press@i2p.io
|
||||
21:04:11 <hottuna> i dont think we've ever hade personal email
|
||||
21:04:22 <hottuna> not that it is a bad idea, it would be nice
|
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21:04:29 <lillith> orion: why?
|
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21:04:51 <hottuna> having them separated makes little sense in my mind
|
||||
21:05:07 <iRelay> <user@kytv> I don't even know what .io stands for. input output?
|
||||
21:05:11 <Meeh> personal email for active developers/contributors could be usefull
|
||||
21:05:22 <Meeh> exceptly when it comes to PR etc
|
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21:05:33 <lillith> i agree but surely meeh@geti2p.net
|
||||
21:05:36 <Meeh> postman's service is nice... but great with imap and stuff
|
||||
21:05:55 <lillith> a site with different email screams out scam to me
|
||||
21:06:06 <suhr> i2p.io is nice, but we've got i2pmail.org...
|
||||
21:06:23 <inscrutus> kytv: yeah input/output
|
||||
21:06:30 <asdfsdafsdafsd> haha my thoughts too user....
|
||||
21:06:41 <lillith> suhr: it's not official. i agree there should be official emails for devs etc though
|
||||
21:06:59 <unresolved> i2pmail ? :/
|
||||
21:07:06 <unresolved> is that really a good idea
|
||||
21:07:13 <suhr> It should be avalibe in i2p.
|
||||
21:07:23 <lillith> unresolved: it already exists
|
||||
21:07:30 <Meeh> yea, but sure we can have two mail domains inside i2p
|
||||
21:07:34 <unresolved> :/
|
||||
21:07:37 <suhr> (www.i2p2.i2p is a terrible address, anyway)
|
||||
21:07:40 <inscrutus> isn't i2pmail.org already the postman mail gateway?
|
||||
21:08:03 <str4d> Back
|
||||
21:08:16 <iRelay> <user@kytv> inscrutus, it is
|
||||
21:08:24 <hottuna> Do we have any other voters?
|
||||
21:08:39 <asdfsdafsdafsd> so jrandom took i2p.i2p too when he went awol?
|
||||
21:09:04 <lillith> str4d: the meeting was handed over to you :)
|
||||
21:09:30 <str4d> K. I have to depart in the next ten mins anyway, so I'll be brief:
|
||||
21:10:10 <str4d> The website is ready for transition (or at least, as ready as I can see)
|
||||
21:10:30 <str4d> Translations are underway.
|
||||
21:10:41 <lillith> str4d: how is the mobile site?
|
||||
21:10:45 <str4d> The structure, urls etc. is set.
|
||||
21:10:54 <str4d> lillith: I *haven't* worked on that, no.
|
||||
21:11:05 <str4d> It's better than the current site, but the menu CSS still needs work.
|
||||
21:11:44 <str4d> As does the desktop CSS
|
||||
21:12:02 <str4d> So designers are more than welcome to get stuck in.
|
||||
21:12:09 <str4d> But we decided previously that the theme is not a blocker.
|
||||
21:12:46 <str4d> Currently, the redirects from the old URLs to the new ones (e.g. /how_threatmodel.html -> /en/docs/how/threat-model) are done with 302 redirects.
|
||||
21:13:20 <hottuna> Ok
|
||||
21:13:20 <str4d> I'm going to leave them like that until the site is live, so the URL redirects can be properly tested
|
||||
21:13:27 <str4d> (But switching to a 301 is a simple addition of a parameter)
|
||||
21:13:31 <hottuna> Have you heard anytinhg from echelon or weltende about deploying the site?
|
||||
21:13:49 <str4d> weltende has said no website work before March
|
||||
21:14:15 <str4d> (He said 2 weeks last week, but earlier in the meeting he said 1/3 which I assume means March)
|
||||
21:15:33 <str4d> So there is still time for design work, more translations, and any other suggestions
|
||||
21:15:36 <hottuna> ok
|
||||
21:15:54 <Meeh> maybe a bit late, but I got a topic for the meeting.. we now got mailing list... should we start using them?
|
||||
21:16:05 <Meeh> I've done setup the server at lists.i2p2.de
|
||||
21:16:15 <hottuna> dg, are you back?
|
||||
21:16:42 <hottuna> we've had no new
|
||||
21:16:49 <hottuna> votes
|
||||
21:16:56 <hottuna> wait, thats not true
|
||||
21:16:59 <hottuna> geti2p.net - 9 - hottuna, dg, inscrutus, zzz, asdfsdafsdafsd, Shinobiwan, str4d, unresolved, meeh, user
|
||||
21:17:09 <zzz> I dont know what 1/3 meant. But w/o him agreeing and doing the work for the site, or a new domain, or anything else we have nothing.
|
||||
21:17:28 <hottuna> i2p-projekt.de - 1 - lillith
|
||||
21:18:03 <Meeh> another question, who got access to geti2p.net, and what if that person goes awol?
|
||||
21:18:09 <inscrutus> zzz: is it possible for others to pitch in to lessen the load on weltende?
|
||||
21:18:27 <Meeh> witch load?
|
||||
21:18:46 <zzz> dont know
|
||||
21:18:56 <hottuna> Meeh, welterde/weltende
|
||||
21:18:59 <lillith> Meeh: are we leaving the mailing list topic to the end?
|
||||
21:19:06 <dg> I'm back.
|
||||
21:19:14 <hottuna> how does shared dns-ownership work?
|
||||
21:19:25 <hottuna> maybe shared access to a registrar account?
|
||||
21:19:35 <iRelay> <user@kytv> Meeh: is this lists.i2p2.de reachable from withing i2p?
|
||||
21:19:55 <dg> Not yet.
|
||||
21:20:09 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> can give you access to the relevant VM
|
||||
21:20:38 <Meeh> lillith: we can leave it to the end yes.
|
||||
21:20:52 <dg> So, website
|
||||
21:21:03 <dg> Are we waiting on welt to be able to help us deploy?
|
||||
21:21:20 <hottuna> I think we are
|
||||
21:21:39 <Meeh> weltende, I can ssh into it and portforward the console and fix it if you want?
|
||||
21:21:58 * dg nods
|
||||
21:22:13 <hottuna> but we've reached a decision?
|
||||
21:22:28 <dg> yes, geti2p.net
|
||||
21:22:35 <dg> that is the majority
|
||||
21:23:46 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> Meeh: hmm? fix what?
|
||||
21:24:25 <str4d> Last point about the website revamp - http://vekw35szhzysfq7cwsly37coegsnb4rrsggy5k4wtasa6c34gy5a.b32.i2p/ has the latest, suggestions welcome.
|
||||
21:24:36 <iRelay> Title: I2P Anonymous Network (at vekw35szhzysfq7cwsly37coegsnb4rrsggy5k4wtasa6c34gy5a.b32.i2p)
|
||||
21:24:36 <Meeh> tunnel, lists.i2p2.i2p or whatever
|
||||
21:24:36 <Meeh> since it's not inside i2p yet
|
||||
21:26:12 <inscrutus> str4d: very nice
|
||||
21:26:33 <iRelay> <user@kytv> looks pretty good, str4d
|
||||
21:27:02 <str4d> Thanks =)
|
||||
21:27:20 <str4d> Post any suggestions in ticket #807
|
||||
21:27:24 * str4d is off now o/
|
||||
21:27:26 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> Meeh: ah.. good point
|
||||
21:27:26 <dg> o/
|
||||
21:27:29 <dg> So, IPv6?
|
||||
21:27:32 <iRelay> http://trac.i2p2.i2p/ticket/807 - (accepted enhancement) - Revamp of website
|
||||
21:27:35 <SkinSyste> thats awesome, should make the i22p.de homepage
|
||||
21:28:06 <asdfsdafsdafsd> I like the color scheme str4d...
|
||||
21:28:35 <asdfsdafsdafsd> are we doing away with the light or dark color scheme?
|
||||
21:28:53 <inscrutus> dg: Is there an IPv6 + i2p summary I could read up on?
|
||||
21:29:15 <dg> inscrutus: Yeah, hang on.
|
||||
21:29:22 <Meeh> there is a IPv6 topic or two on zzz.i2p
|
||||
21:29:37 <dg> http://zzz.i2p/topics/109 http://zzz.i2p/topics/594
|
||||
21:29:37 <hottuna> inscrutus, http://zzz.i2p/topics/109
|
||||
21:29:52 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: I2P vs. IPv6: A bad joke (at zzz.i2p)
|
||||
21:29:56 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: IPV6 TODO (at zzz.i2p)
|
||||
21:31:30 <suhr> How to get to "How does I2P work" page on that site?
|
||||
21:31:33 <suhr> Menu isn't clickable.
|
||||
21:32:15 <suhr> Ah, that's "Documentation index"
|
||||
21:33:19 <suhr> It's a bit unintuitive.
|
||||
21:34:01 <dg> Hm. That's for str4d for a ticket.
|
||||
21:34:04 <dg> *or
|
||||
21:34:16 <dg> IPv6..
|
||||
21:34:34 <dg> welt was the last (only?) dev to work on IPv6 + I2P
|
||||
21:34:46 <dg> I don't know if anyone is willing to take it up aside from zzz (and he needs a box, ssh thru i2p in that case)
|
||||
21:34:53 <dg> hottuna? Meeh?
|
||||
21:34:55 <Meeh> yea, is someone interesting in a ipv6 hackfest?
|
||||
21:35:13 <Meeh> I provide server
|
||||
21:35:13 <hottuna> A hackfest seems like a nice idea
|
||||
21:35:20 <Meeh> and help testing on other locations as well
|
||||
21:35:46 <zzz> no, this is not time for a hackfest. We need an analysisfest and a decisionfest.
|
||||
21:36:05 <Meeh> ok, well, do you want to lead that zzz?
|
||||
21:36:27 <Meeh> and do you want a ssh account to a ipv6 server you can play with?
|
||||
21:38:18 <zzz> yes to both. however probably not before April.
|
||||
21:39:14 <Meeh> ok, why not before April?
|
||||
21:39:21 <Meeh> and
|
||||
21:39:40 <Meeh> how do we analyse what's needed to be analyzed?
|
||||
21:39:55 <Meeh> IMO we should get i2p on ipv6 asap
|
||||
21:40:21 <zzz> I'm probably about to lose a whole bunch of time but I have nothing more to say about it yet.
|
||||
21:40:32 <Meeh> ah ok
|
||||
21:40:44 <dg> hopefully won't be the case but :(
|
||||
21:41:09 <zzz> for analysis, read and understand every work in thread 109 and then keep going and come up with a recommendation and reasoning
|
||||
21:42:42 <zzz> s/work/word/
|
||||
21:42:45 <iRelay> zzz meant: for analysis, read and understand every word in thread 109 and then keep going and come up with a recommendation and reasoning
|
||||
21:42:56 <Meeh> I support your option #3, from my limited experience with ipv6
|
||||
21:43:10 <Meeh> and I've read the thread
|
||||
21:43:25 <zzz> it's mostly about how what change fits best into our code, not about ipv6 itself.
|
||||
21:44:16 <zzz> it could also be about how to do NTCP/SSU with pigeons.
|
||||
21:45:37 <suhr> Is there a big difference between ipv4 and ipv6 in java?
|
||||
21:48:13 * suhr don't know I2P code.
|
||||
21:52:54 <christoph4> I doubt the problem is the direct networking code
|
||||
21:52:54 <zzz> no
|
||||
21:53:28 <zzz> it's really a datastructure issue.
|
||||
21:54:32 <christoph4> + there might be some fun with privacy extension and multiple valid addresses adround where you want to switch from time to time. And how you do a "one node per /16" on IPv6 address space
|
||||
21:54:43 <zzz> do you want to organize by hi-level protocol NTCP/SSU, or low-level IPv4/v6, or both or neither
|
||||
21:56:12 <zzz> right. the various places where we assume v4 all have to be fixed too, but that's just grunt work
|
||||
21:57:07 <inscrutus> grunt work would be good for new devs to help get familiar with the code
|
||||
21:57:10 <zzz> dg are we done I hope?
|
||||
21:57:21 <dg> yeah
|
||||
21:57:28 <dg> we've got nobody else
|
||||
21:57:31 <dg> so.. yeah.
|
||||
21:57:38 <hottuna> alright!
|
||||
21:57:38 * zzz hands dg the *baffer
|
||||
21:57:53 <dg> I'll cut down on what we have per-meeting next time, or maybe more poking? ;-)
|
||||
21:57:56 * dg takes
|
||||
21:57:56 <lillith> dg: so are crypto and mailing list rolling over to next week?
|
||||
21:57:59 * dg *baf*s the meeting closed
|
||||
21:58:02 <dg> lillith: Yup.
|
||||
21:58:17 <hottuna> alright, you've managed to get us all to decide on a new domain
|
||||
21:58:20 <hottuna> not bad at all :)
|
||||
21:58:40 <dg> :)
|
||||
21:58:51 <lillith> hottuna: it was a fairly unanimous decision ;)
|
||||
21:59:08 <hottuna> getting us to make is the hard part
|
||||
21:59:23 <inscrutus> dg: i think it's reasonable to not wait as long for stragglers
|
||||
21:59:51 <lillith> inscrutus: or start earlier for stragglers
|
||||
22:00:06 <lillith> ie start poking from half 7 ish
|
||||
22:00:29 <inscrutus> lillith: that too
|
||||
22:00:33 <dg> Perhaps trivial, non dev topics should be erlier
|
||||
22:00:44 <dg> (Mailing list for example)
|
||||
22:01:26 <inscrutus> dg: a good idea so to not scare off the non-devs :)
|
||||
22:01:29 <dg> I need to know good times for zzz .. and whoever the other crypto/ipv6 guys are. Most of us can't contribute to discussion at all.
|
||||
22:04:44 <zzz> dg, I don't know when the good times are either. str4d and tuna seemed to be making a little progress.
|
||||
22:07:47 <zzz> dg I'm guessing 6-12 months will be required to come up with a solid plan.
|
||||
22:08:13 <dg> zzz: That's resonable. Better late than never, and I'd rather us be planning than nothing at all.
|
||||
22:09:25 <zzz> it's been on the list for years already. pushing more might help or might not.
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I2P dev meeting, February 12, 2013 @ 20:00 UTC
|
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==============================================
|
||||
|
||||
Quick recap
|
||||
-----------
|
||||
|
||||
* **Present:**
|
||||
asdfsdafsdafsd,
|
||||
christoph3,
|
||||
dg,
|
||||
eche|on,
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h2ik,
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hottuna,
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inscrutus,
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lillith,
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Mathiasdm,
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Meeh,
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orion,
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Shinobiwan,
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str4d,
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suhr,
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unresolved,
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user,
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weltende,
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zzz
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* **Next Meeting**
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The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, February 19 @ 20:00 UTC (8:00PM)
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20:25:01 <KillYourTV> Perhaps I'm in the minority but I think that if there are going to be meetings they *really* should start on time.
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20:25:24 <inscrutus> Indeed
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20:26:31 <KillYourTV> Not starting until 30-60 minutes after it _should have started_ looks bad, especially to outsiders that may be watching from the relayed networks.
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20:27:21 <inscrutus> I don't remember who chaired last time. Are we waiting for him?
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20:28:11 <lillith> ^this
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20:28:28 <lillith> inscrutus: dg is often late
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20:32:22 <hottuna> KillYourTV, yeah. I agree
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20:33:01 <lillith> we could just start without dg, if anyone wants to just go for it
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20:36:27 <inscrutus> I believe ipv6 was one topic left over from last meeting...
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20:50:56 <dg> It was.
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20:51:07 <dg> Most of it can't be done without zzz though, or str4d
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20:52:25 * dg apologizes for being late - been out of it
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20:52:40 <dg> Topics were/are:
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20:52:43 <dg> * Syndie documentation (lillith)
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20:52:43 <dg> * Mailing list (meeh)
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20:52:43 <dg> * Feeds (str4d)
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20:52:43 <dg> * Thoughts (anyone)
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20:52:54 <dg> Meeh, lillith?
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20:53:03 <dg> if you guys aren't here.. shit.
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21:18:01 <Meeh> dg: I'm here now, sorry
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21:18:20 <dg> np, is lillith?
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21:18:23 <dg> I'm sorry, not you ;)
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21:18:27 <Meeh> dunno
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21:18:49 <inscrutus> lillith was, about 45m ago
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21:18:49 <lillith> i am
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21:19:08 <inscrutus> I stand corrected
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21:20:10 <dg> \o
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21:20:22 <dg> Hi all, sorry for delay
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21:20:42 <dg> lillith is going to be speaking about Syndie doumentation
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21:21:35 <lillith> is this my cue or are we having a full schedule first?
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21:21:49 <dg> I've given the full one ;)
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21:21:52 <dg> maybe it was lost
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> Topics were/are:
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> * Syndie documentation (lillith)
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> * Mailing list (meeh)
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> * Feeds (str4d)
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> * Thoughts (anyone)
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21:21:59 <dg> <+dg> Meeh, lillith?
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21:22:02 <dg> <+dg> if you guys aren't here.. shit.
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21:22:21 <lillith> ahh okay :)
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21:22:24 <inscrutus> I saw it via kytv relay only....
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21:23:10 <lillith> right well since zzz and others have put so much work into syndie, i feel it is a shame that it is still so unused
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21:24:01 <lillith> and since the gui is.. challenging for a begginer, i thought it may be a good idea to write/update the docs
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21:24:47 <lillith> so now myself, KillYourTV, and aargh are working on a wiki
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21:25:17 <lillith> hosted at *i don't have the b32 handy*
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21:25:19 <dg> Wiki for exclusively Sundie?
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21:25:23 <dg> s/Sundie/Syndie
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21:25:54 <lillith> since it is a wiki i/we would appreciate if everyone could have a look and fix it if needed
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21:26:01 <lillith> yes
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21:26:16 <Meeh> I'm trying to make a map over the syndie archives at http://wiki.meeh.i2p/doku.php?id=syndie:known_archives
|
||||
21:26:24 <iRelay> Title: syndie:known_archives [wiki.meeh.i2p] (at wiki.meeh.i2p)
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||||
21:26:43 <lillith> so, please do have a play on syndie and report back on f you feel the beginners guide is suitable for a short intro
|
||||
21:26:50 <dg> A column for default or not may be useful
|
||||
21:27:25 <dg> alright :)
|
||||
21:27:44 <lillith> the current documentation is ufinished, so anthing we do is an improvement
|
||||
21:28:27 <lillith> also KillYourTV: i assume the plan is to export the wiki into the official website at some point, is that correct and if so who do i need to speak to?
|
||||
21:30:10 <lillith> Meeh: a column for filtering/blocking policy might be useful too
|
||||
21:30:25 <Meeh> ok, but I don't know what to fill in there
|
||||
21:31:03 <dg> ask around I suppose
|
||||
21:31:26 <Meeh> gonna do it
|
||||
21:31:53 <dg> thanks for giving Syndie some love lillith
|
||||
21:32:01 <lillith> i'l tell you mine later, not here now :)
|
||||
21:32:31 <inscrutus> lillith: is this the wiki b32? http://fomjl7cori4juycw55kdlczpgzzhme6nox6zykokuiov6t5lxhvq.b32.i2p/user_guide/
|
||||
21:32:34 <iRelay> Title: Syndie Handbook (at fomjl7cori4juycw55kdlczpgzzhme6nox6zykokuiov6t5lxhvq.b32.i2p)
|
||||
21:33:02 <lillith> dg: it's actually pretty good, even if it is buggy.
|
||||
21:33:23 <lillith> inscrutus: it is :) thanks
|
||||
21:33:54 <KillYourTV> lillith: yes, once finished all documentation will ultimately end up on the 'official' syndie site (for now http://www.syndie.i2p/wiki/ will redirect to the wiki page)
|
||||
21:33:57 <iRelay> Title: Syndie Documentation Project (at www.syndie.i2p)
|
||||
21:35:14 <inscrutus> Ok, what's next, dg?
|
||||
21:35:17 <lillith> so unless anyone else has anything to say on this, i can *baf* this topic :)
|
||||
21:35:20 <dg> Meeh
|
||||
21:35:31 <dg> (with mailing list)
|
||||
21:35:43 <dg> lillith: thx :) - I'm enjoying reading the introduction
|
||||
21:36:02 <dg> Meeh: Want to take the floor?
|
||||
21:36:41 <Meeh> IIRC I'm waiting for weltende because I needed access to the router console for creating tunnels for making mailing list available inside i2p
|
||||
21:37:42 <Meeh> and, we need to start to use it
|
||||
21:38:36 <inscrutus> Is it a -dev mailinglist? Or just general i2p?
|
||||
21:38:39 <dg> zzz and user said they were going to hold off until an inner-i2p presence appeared
|
||||
21:38:42 <Meeh> both
|
||||
21:38:56 <inscrutus> ok
|
||||
21:39:04 <Meeh> ok
|
||||
21:39:25 <Meeh> weltende: any chance for creating tunnels for the mailing list?
|
||||
21:39:25 <Meeh> soon
|
||||
21:41:01 <lillith> Meeh: what is the intention for the mailing list? as in compared to zzz.i2p or irc or syndie
|
||||
21:41:37 <str4d2> apologies for absence - internet fail
|
||||
21:42:00 <dg> str4d :)
|
||||
21:42:11 <Meeh> personaly, I'm unsure.. But it seemed liked we came to the conclution that we should start with the mailing list stuff again, as other open source projects do...
|
||||
21:42:33 <Meeh> don't remember which meeting it was
|
||||
21:43:08 <inscrutus> Maybe it would be a good idea to mirror the mailing list to Syndie or vice versa. To avoid fragmentation
|
||||
21:43:23 <str4d2> I'm unavailable in about 15 mins, btw
|
||||
21:44:10 <Meeh> I like your idea inscrutus
|
||||
21:44:41 <str4d2> (and can't make this meeting time in future)
|
||||
21:45:11 <str4d2> that's a nice ideqla
|
||||
21:45:14 <str4d2> idea*
|
||||
21:45:53 <dg> It was suggested in the past, I believe it was going to be a part of Syndie anyhow.
|
||||
21:46:04 <dg> Meeh: Anything more?
|
||||
21:46:15 * lillith- really needs to remember to plug my laptop in.... reading scrollback on sighup...
|
||||
21:47:11 <Meeh> no not really, I need to talk with weltende first
|
||||
21:47:22 <lillith-> inscrutus: that was my next suggestion :)
|
||||
21:47:41 <dg> Alright.
|
||||
21:47:44 <inscrutus> :)
|
||||
21:47:51 <lillith-> i think we could be 'dog-fooding' a little more
|
||||
21:48:18 <dg> lillith-: ?
|
||||
21:48:40 <lillith-> about the mailing list/syndie mirrorring
|
||||
21:48:55 <dg> I'm not familiar with that expression
|
||||
21:49:47 <lillith-> ahh the dog food principle of open source projects is, basically, use your own software
|
||||
21:49:50 <inscrutus> it means to use your own product(s). It comes from a dogfood maker whose ceo i believe ate his company's own dogfood to prove it's good
|
||||
21:50:01 <dg> oh.. to eat our own dog food
|
||||
21:50:04 <dg> I agree
|
||||
21:50:15 <lillith-> if we expect others to use it, we should too
|
||||
21:50:35 <str4d2> Mmm
|
||||
21:51:01 <str4d2> My problem with Syndie is that I have NFI how to use it
|
||||
21:51:12 <dg> I need to check it out again
|
||||
21:51:12 <dg> Anyhow..
|
||||
21:51:12 <dg> str4d2: You ok to do feeds now? After $next_thing, perhaps a new meeting time should be discussed. Not everyone is here though..
|
||||
21:51:15 <str4d2> The interface is not very intuitive.
|
||||
21:51:18 <lillith-> str4d2: have you looked at the docs?
|
||||
21:51:57 <str4d2> Somewhat, but we shouldnt expect users to all do that
|
||||
21:52:00 <lillith-> dg: surely that is the reason we need a new time...
|
||||
21:52:30 <dg> kind of. zzz and others are missing due to IRL issues too though - which makes it harder to agree on a new time which works for everyone.
|
||||
21:53:01 <str4d2> and I'm busynow, sorry
|
||||
21:53:01 <lillith-> dg: we could have a new temporary time and revisit it in a few weeks.
|
||||
21:53:38 <lillith-> tues 8.00 isn't great for dg, str4d2, or me
|
||||
21:55:51 <dg> it doesn't :-/
|
||||
22:03:14 <lillith-> has everyone gone to sleep or is that the end of the meeting?
|
||||
22:03:29 <dg> Apparently sleep..
|
||||
22:03:36 <dg> We'll open a thread on zzz.i2p about it?
|
||||
22:03:39 * lillith- picks up the baffer menacingly
|
||||
22:03:42 <inscrutus> I'm here, just don't have anything to add to meeting times
|
||||
22:03:49 <dg> It's just us three.
|
||||
22:05:25 * dg *bafs the meeting closed
|
||||
22:05:28 <lillith-> okay well if no-one has anything to add then i'l do the honours
|
||||
22:05:51 * lillith- *bafs* the meeting
|
||||
22:06:10 <lillith-> damn you got there first ;)
|
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|
||||
I2P dev meeting, February 19, 2013 @ 20:00 UTC
|
||||
==============================================
|
||||
|
||||
Quick recap
|
||||
-----------
|
||||
|
||||
* **Present:**
|
||||
dg,
|
||||
hottuna,
|
||||
inscrutus,
|
||||
KillYourTV,
|
||||
lillith,
|
||||
Meeh,
|
||||
str4d
|
||||
|
||||
* **Next Meeting**
|
||||
The next meeting is on hold until a more suitable time can be chosen.
|
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|
||||
{% block content %}
|
||||
<h1>{{ _('Logs of past I2P meetings') }}</h1>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>{% trans -%}
|
||||
Meetings are currently on hold until a more suitable time can be chosen.
|
||||
{%- endtrans %}</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>{% trans blogindex=get_url('blog_index') -%}
|
||||
If you have something to discuss, please find the developers on IRC in #i2p-dev.
|
||||
<a href="{{ blogindex }}">Status updates</a> from developers are also available.
|
||||
|
Reference in New Issue
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